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Wayne Brown, president of the Galloping Goose Historical Society, stands beside the engine he had a part in repairing a few years back. The hybrid train/bus runs on gasoline. Brown and the Historical Society are proposing to restore the old Rio Grande Southern track between Dolores and Mancos and run twice daily trips on the goose in the summer months - Date? Photographer?
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6 August 2003
Dolores Group Proposes Scenic Train

Dolores Colorado USA - Several years ago, when Dolores resident Wayne Brown approached fellow townspeople about restoring the old Rio Grande Southern Galloping Goose No. 5 he was met with skepticism.
 
"The community hesitated to allow a group of mostly newcomers to take their goose apart and rebuild it," he said.
 
However, Brown and a group of dedicated rail buffs, calling themselves the Galloping Goose Historical Society, persevered.
 
To prove themselves worthy, they started by rebuilding the old RSG depot in town, where the Goose is now housed.
 
"Seven of us spent two years rebuilding the depot," said Brown, 52, a multi-disciplined handy man and self-described "contract consultant" who specializes in boiler maintenance.
 
"This showed the community that we had the wherewithal and expertise to restore the goose."
 
Then, in 1996, with the help of a Colorado Historical Society grant, and the town's blessing, the group set about restoring beloved Goose No. 5 as well.
 
"We got the Goose restored in 14 months," Brown said of the 70-year-old gasoline-powered rail bus.
 
Now, Brown and his cohorts are embarking on yet another mission, to restore the old RGS narrow gauge line from Dolores to Mancos that the Goose once roamed as a tourist attraction.
 
According to a proposal set forth by the group, the 30 passenger Goose would run twice daily between Dolores and Mancos in the summer season and when the weather permits, on special occasions.
 
"You can't haul a lot with it," said Patrick McCoy, of the San Juan National Forest's Dolores office.
 
"It won't be like the Durango and Silverton narrow gauge, but it's a start."
 
McCoy said the Forest Service is just one of 44 landowners the Galloping Goose Historical Society will need to gain an easement from in order to rebuild the 20 mile line.
 
So far, the group has gained the backing of the towns of Dolores and Mancos, both of which passed resolutions supporting the endeavor.
 
"The Town Board believes it will improve the economic factors here in Dolores," said Ann Swope, an assistant clerk for the town of Dolores.

The route would cross the Dolores River near the existing 4th Street Bridge in Dolores. In order to cross the river, the group must first secure a permit from the Army Corps of Engineers. The group is proposing using the town's former green steel expanse, which was taken down a few years ago - Date? Photographer?

The Forest Service has yet to provide its approval of the project pending an environmental study, but McCoy said any shot to the area's economy is welcome.
 
"The Forest Service would be very supportive of any economic venture proposed by the Mancos or Dolores town boards," he said.
 
"This is one opportunity to add additional historical attractions to the county and for the community of Dolores to beef up its economy."
 
And while gaining easements from all the landowners may seem an insurmountable task, Brown, who is president of the historical society, is confident they will comply given the potential economic benefit.
 
"The town has agreed to back us 110 percent," he said.
 
"People see this as a good economic thing. They see the writing on the wall. As one old lady who attended a Town Board meeting said, These towns are drying up."
 
A Means to An End
 
Described as part car, part bus, part train, Galloping Goose No. 5 was actually one of a fleet of seven rail buses, affectionately referred to as "The Geese."
 
They traveled the Rio Grande Southern line, a 162 mile track that connected Ridgway to Durango via Telluride, Placerville, Rico, Stoner, Dolores, and Mancos.
 
Built in the 1880s, the RGS was served originally by steam locomotives hauling heavy metals, particularly silver, from the mines of Telluride and Rico to Durango.
 
"It was built because the trains couldn't get over Red Mountain Pass," said Brown.
 
The Geese were introduced during the Great Depression, a time when the railroad couldn't afford to run its steam trains.
 
Built using automobile engines and bodies, mostly Buick and Pierce-Arrows, and running on 12 wheels with a basic fifth-wheel construction, the Geese lacked the stature and romanticism of their steam predecessors.
 
Nevertheless, their unconventional snub-nosed style embodied 1930s-era ingenuity, which breathed another 20 years of life into the ailing railroad.
 
"The Geese were a means to an ends for the railroad," said Brown.
 
"They would carry milk, groceries, mail, building materials, etc."
 
The fleet ran from the early 1930s until 1951, when the line went "belly up," Brown said.

Some of Galloping Goose No. 5's former haunts are emblazoned on the side of the car, which sits on tracks in front of the town's restored depot - Date? Photographer?

"By 1951 the infrastructure had deteriorated to such a state that it became a safety issue," he said.
 
Unable to dump the necessary money into repairing the line, the railroad abandoned it.
 
Today, all but one of the silvery Geese, which look like something out of a 1940s sci-fi comic book, have been restored, with three in the Colorado Railroad Museum, one at Knott's Berry Farm, one on display in Telluride, and No. 5 in Dolores.
 
"No. 5 sits on tracks here in Dolores, and occasionally we do give rides on it," said McCoy, of the Forest Service.
 
An Uphill Battle
 
While the Historical Society made relatively quick work of restoring No. 5, Brown realizes it has its work cut out in bringing the old line back to life.
 
In addition to obtaining easements, the financially strapped group also must drum up financial support, mostly in the form of donations and grants, as well as community support.
 
As a result, the group has broken the project into three phases, the first of which will follow the old railroad grade from the Dolores Depot 18 miles up Lost Canyon, to the Forest Service-Dolores town boundary.
 
The second stage would follow the old grade 8 miles from the Forest Service boundary to Glencoe, where a wye would be installed to allow the train to turn around.
 
The third and final stage would bring the line from Glencoe to Mancos, where another wye would be put in.
 
"The reason we're phasing is to gain momentum," said Brown, adding that the first phase entails obtaining easements from only nine landowners.
 
Overall, he said he expects the entire project will take 10 years to complete.
 
"We're just barely getting our feet wet now."
 
Brown said making the project a reality will require a true community effort and coordination of all stakeholders, something he admits is more easily said than done.
 
"We need approval from everybody, but nobody wants to be the first," he said.
 
"We're all going to have to work together on this."
 
Furthermore, he admitted there are some townspeople, transplants from city life, who would just as soon see Dolores remain the sleepy town it is, without the added attraction of a scenic train.
 
In addition to this, the group also must consider how it will finance the project.
 
Brown said the group expects to get much of its money via grants and will rely on donations of goods and services as well as volunteers to get the work done. Since launching its effort in 1987, the group has been awarded more than US$160,000 in grants and was recently given US$2.5 million worth of rails, ties, and spikes from the U.S. Army, enough to lay about 10 miles of track. The supplies, which were being stored at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal near Denver, were brought to Dolores by 41 Army supply trucks over the course of two months in the spring of 2000.
 
"We couldn't afford to bring it down here, so an Army Reserve Unit brought it down," said Brown, a Navy WestPac Vietnam-era veteran.
 
"They used it as a training mission."
 
Brown said the supplies are being stored at the Line Camp, a private ranch near Dolores, until they can be used.
 
As far as installation of the track goes, he said Nielsens Construction, Inc. has volunteered its expertise and equipment, and the Cortez branch of the National Guard has offered up its manpower.
 
"The National Guard donates their time for training," he said.
 
"They do it all over the country."
 
Furthermore, the Historical Society hopes to recycle the town's old green steel 4th Street bridge, which was replaced a few years ago, to span the Dolores River.
 
However, this is something that would require the approval of the Army Corps of Engineers, yet another hurdle in the complex process.
 
While Brown admits that so far it's been a "real long hard row to hoe," he remains optimistic, even looking toward the future of someday running other engines on the railroad, such as the wood-fired Eureka.
 
"There's all kinds of possibilities once the railroad's in place," he said.
 
And to play off a cliche that can't help but invite comparison to the situation, Brown says not only does he think he'll be successful in his mission, he knows he will.
 
"All I keep hearing is, No you can't," he said.
 
"And to this I say, Wanna bet? Just watch."
 
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